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Posts: 9 Im just going to disregard the email, but you guys might want to look into this. Www.filterforge.com - message for realityengine from dev Inbox x [email protected] via filterforge.com 6:35 AM (13 hours ago) to me dev has sent you a private message via www.filterforge.com: SUBJECT: Need a Serial Key,Please Please i need a serial number for filterforge 3 DISCLAIMER: Any views or opinions expressed in the message above are those of the sender and are not necessarily shared by filterforge.com. Posted: March 6, 2012 9:45 pm RodD. Posts: 9911 Yes, I think this is a good way to cut piracy and so even if you have a ilegal key, it will not work when a new update is released. BUT I think that this would work even better and fight much more piracy if FF would release an update once a month, and so would be a problem for pirates and would have to be changing and looking for new keys every time. As it is now there are ONLY a very few updates and so if you get a key now it will be probably a long time until next update happens. Perhaps they could update it without needing to change anything important in the software, probably a very small fix could trigger to make a new update every month.
Posted: March 11, 2012 1:49 am Morgantao. Posts: 2185 SpaceRay, if it means we get a new bug fix or a new feature every month, I'm all for it. Otherwise it's just a pain in the butt for all the legal, paying cutomers, that have to upgrade for nothing all the time. Fighting piracy is important, but it can't get in the way of the paying customer. Imagine that going into a jewlery store would mean you have to register 2 weeks in advance, so they check your backround before you can enter. After all, there are criminals out there. Posted: March 11, 2012 4:30 am SpaceRay.
Posts: 9911 Quote Morgantao wrote: SpaceRay, if it means we get a new bug fix or a new feature every month, I'm all for it. Otherwise it's just a pain in the butt for all the legal, paying cutomers, that have to upgrade for nothing all the time. Of course that the update should include something and at least some kind of bugfix to something, because making a update ONLY and just for anti-piracy measure is NOT good and would be bad for the legal users. What I mean is that FF does NOT need to wait to make a important change to make an update and would be good to have more frequently bug fixes to solve some of the pending problems FF still have in some ways.
Posted: March 11, 2012 6:47 am Ramlyn. Posts: 2036 I think that in general fighting piracy is a loss of time. We should before wonder who uses pirated software. I think there are two categories of people: 1. They really don't have money to buy the new soft. In some countries, for example in Indonesia, you can normally find in the net or in the shops pirated or copied software.
And nobody cares. So, what to do? It is meaningless. The people there cannot buy a new software: it is too expensive and they need those money to buy food instead. What they download ( or buy for few money ) is one of their few enjoyment.
Do we want to take it away just to be able to say 'I deleted pirated software'? There is no need to take it away, because anyway the software maker would not receive any advantage. Not even 1 copy more would be sold. People who aren't really interested in the program. They don't even have few ideas about how to use it and no serious intention to use it for long time. Maybe they just use it a couple of times and after forget it.
That's why they never thought to spend some money for it. Yes, there are surely also people who download the pirate version and, if that version was not available, they would buy the original software.
But the are a so small number that I think FBI and companies are wasting much more money to fight against piracy than what they would lose if they simply were forgetting the problem. In most of cases, if they were instead selling the software at a cheaper price, the would get much better results. Posted: March 11, 2012 6:52 am Ramlyn.
Posts: 257 I'm certainly not suggesting that constant updates just to block pirated serials are a good strategy. In fact, that would be terrible, and extremely frustrating for paying customers! I'm just saying it's a handy by-product of on-line connectivity. If anyone actually was using this as a deliberate tactic, then I'd certainly not buy the product. I once almost got a nice lil 3D editing thingy for second life, but just before I got it, I found out that it connects to verify the registration details every time you use it, I was like noooo, I don't think I'll be getting that.
Anything that inconveniences users is a bad thing. It's like those unskipable anti piracy messages you get on DVDs, whenever I have to see that crap I think, if I'd got a pirate copy, I wouldn't have to watch this, I'd be watching the film by now.
Also, monthly updates for bugfixes I don't think is good practice either, being able up update bugs makes companies lazy with testing, knowing that if they miss anything they can update it later. It's best to keep updates down to the least possible. Posts: 2185 Ramlyn, Where I live every teenager has all the best and newest professional software on his computer, and they use it for their teenage stuff, like editing their videos, adding little hearts and stars to pictures and such. Even Windows is pirated on most computers, I suspect. However, no professional that makes a living out of the softwar uses a pirated copy. It's a basic thing, really.
The software companies can't chase individuals that use pirated software, they can only go after professionals, and people realise that paying a fine for using pirated softwaer is less aconomic than paying once for the software and use it freely. Quote Mongoose wrote.I found out that it connects to verify the registration details every time you use it.
Did you know that Windows7 does that every time you boot your computer? Did you know that Adobe Photoshop does that every time you load it? I'm sorry to tell you that alot of the software that we use every day 'spies' on you and your computer. While the vast majority of the companies do that for legitimate purposes, or to stop piracy, there are unfotunatly those who sell the information to the highest bidder.
It's just like all those Facebook apps (or whatever they're called). Farmville for example, used to harvest info about you while you harvested your virtual field, and sell the info to advertising companies or whatever. Quote Mongoose wrote: It's like those unskipable anti piracy messages you get on DVDs, whenever I have to see that crap I think, if I'd got a pirate copy, I wouldn't have to watch this, I'd be watching the film by now Yeah those things are HORRIBLE! And sometimes there's also unskipable 'coming soon' previews. That's totaly lame. Quote Mongoose wrote: Also, monthly updates for bugfixes I don't think is good practice either, being able up update bugs makes companies lazy with testing, knowing that if they miss anything they can update it later I agree that bug fixes should be done at the beta stages, and the release should be as bug free as possible. However, when you have a forum full of pending bug reports, it's nice to get a fix every now and then (HINT HINT ).
Posted: March 11, 2012 3:53 pm Mongoose King. Posts: 257 Quote Did you know that Windows7 does that every time you boot your computer? Did you know that Adobe Photoshop does that every time you load it?
Ohh, I didn't quite make it clear with that one, this program checked every time, and if it couldn't connect and verify it, it refused to work!:O So, you can only use it when it can connect to it's server. No connection, no workies. Photoshop you can happily block from ever connecting online and it won't complain, With Windows Vista and Windows Vista With A New Name you can turn off it connecting to Microsoft every time it connects online with a simple registry edit (HKEYLOCALMACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesNlaSvcParametersInternet then set EnableActiveProbing to 0 if you wana try). Pretty much any product you can turn this stuff off and it doesn't complain, except Apple stuff, cos they are evil, which is why I don't install Quicktime, well, that plus it's so awful. As for Facebook, I stopped using that when they let everyone in, blah, it was cool when it was just for Universities, soon as I got a friend request from my dad I was like, nope, end of this. Posts: 2036 I have a facebook account. The only reason I keep it is because I have many friends living abroad, and they have facebook, so it's a way like another for staying in touch.
For the rest, I don't like facebook. It should be a friendly place, but instead they only have silly rules. Like the 'fake' rules ( I say fake because they don't really help to solve anything ) to protect our privacy. I live in Japan. It happened to me to go to Thailand for job and to try to check my facebook account. I got this answer 'You are logging in from a location that is not your usual. Please insert your cellphone number to verify your account'.
Same thing when I was in Italy. And that time was even more silly. It showed me 10 photos taken from my friends album and asked me to write the name of the people and their birthday. If the photo was of the face of my friend, it is ok, but it randomly took photos from their albums: some photo was a fish, or a landscape, or a steak with mushrooms. How can I say who took it? That time I had to login some Italian friend account and go to check the photos of my friends, or facebook would have blocked my account. Posted: March 12, 2012 3:03 am Ramlyn.
Posts: 2036 I can also make a nice comment on another company: PayPal. I firstly made an account. Everything looked easy. Good, I thought. Then they started changing the rules. 'We have an update for protecting your privacy', etc etc.
One day, suddenly, I got a message. 'Your account have been limited for a random check'.
So, my account was not working anymore, because of a random check. I could not delete it. I could not delete my bank data. And they asked to verify my account. This was done detracting 1.5 Euro from my bank. I had to check the detraction number and then type it in PayPal. I don't mind for the 1.5 Euro, but what kind of service is this?
Blocking my account and taking money at 'random'?? I had a PayPal account for my company too.
My company changed bank. So we had to modify the bank data. I thought it was enough adding the new data. PayPal sent two small money amounts to the new bank ( 0.2 and 0.4 Euro ).
They asked me to go checking how much was the amount and the code number. I was abroad, so I asked to another person in my company to go checking the bank and type the totals in PayPal. Result: PayPal blocked the account for 'unusual activity'. What is the 'unusual activity'? It simply that the account was logged in from two different countries the same day. The account was blocked. No transfer of money from PayPal to our bank was possible.
In one month, all money received in the account would have sent back. How to unblock? They asked me: 1. To explain, amount by amount, who was my client, why I got the money, showing correspondence with the client, showing email and address. Asking to my bank a certificate in English with all my bank private information, etc etc 3. My home and company address certificate, plus a passport certificate to verify my identity. I WILL NEVER AND NEVER USE PAYPAL ANYMORE.
Then, if somebody gets angry and decides to hack them, what should I think? Posted: March 12, 2012 3:26 am RodD. Posts: 2185 Yet, Rod. You never had any issues with paypal at all, yet Ramlyn, sorry to hear those horror stories. I don't have a facebook account, so I didn't know about those fake rules and strange photo confirmations.
In fact, I can't tell you my brother's birth date, not to mention my friends' bithdays! And a picture of a fish?
I bet even the fish couldn't tell you his birth date Mongoose, you're right, all those softwars can be blocked from going online. The 'No connection, no workies' is a messed up thing.
If I ever payid for a software that did that I'd get my money back. Don't know about you, but I have had plenty of downtimes when I could not connect to the internet. Most of the time it's the DSL company's fault, but once a couple of years the DSL modem just dies. Posted: March 12, 2012 5:27 pm Ramlyn.
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